With the skinny 3. They look a lot better on his feet than the Reefs, IMO, because they are wider and surround his whole foot. It is worth noting that, while I cannot find any codec information on these, I get zero latency with video. In the good weather he jogs a lot and he likes listening to music at the time when he is jogging. I actually have this style shoe in several colors. I used the towelettes to clean the area and let it dry. Not a DIRT game. 1 Logitech speakers). As far as sturdiness, I had no issues with the main rod bending (before taking pictures I had more clothes hanging from it), and the hooks have been able to withstand multiple bags and belts hanging from them. Did not fully tighten down, threads still exposed