Want utter comfort give Sketchers a try you wont be unsatisfied. Fool me once! This leads up to the major potential con. Its great to protect the headband, especially when you want to leave it in your bag with other stuff. I think they sounded better and lasted way longer. Since things seem to get discounted, I decided to purchase a second set. It took some time to screw together the pipe pieces because the manufacturer painted the threads inside and out - bad decision! However, I dont think this is specific to this tray so please dont skip it because of that - I think this is how most of these trays work. These will finally be what makes me finish long games, especially exploration type games that were kind of annoying to play standing. Its not too tight but it is literally 2 inches from my lady hood where the knot is.