Also if you have a wide foot or a high instep like me, get these. The mfg needs to check their design and fix the flaw. Great for any workout! -The scrollwheel is loud AF and the 16 steps makes it feel awful for scrolling web pages/documents. Fabric shoes often stretch out too much, so I think this is a thoughtful design. In most shoes I wear 6w to 7w. Will definitely recommend these to others! I couldnt wear them to the pool, the river, or walking the neighborhood because even the sprinklers were too much. I like to wear socks With these when pottering in garden as dislike dirty feet. Amazon was having a deal on these earphones a little while ago so I decided to take the plunge and grab them.