I was falling and sliding everywhereI called KEEN and they said they thought amazon has defective shoes. The 4 arms and handle bar holder increases the overall cost of this set up for me specifically, but figure its the best way to go vs. DO NOT PURCHASE! I bet there are a whole lot of people out there that are in the same position as me and probably have never tried on a pair of crocs. Half of her heel was out. I was left with 2 holes in my wall that I have to now patch. Would I get another pair Yes will I get another pair yes. The watch is bulkier than most obviously and does snag on sweaters more easily. 0Sound is pretty decent for $30 wireless BTCons:Hard to keep them inWill fall out if eating/moving/working outNot a big gripe or anything, but includes the USB to MicroUSB cable, but no charger. Even without the orthos (which I leave out some of the time), I would still order 1 whole size larger.