Now the thing I saw with them is the wiring is like a firm of a jelly. On a positive note, no amount of hot water wash managed to shrink my first order, so that’s good news when you get the pair that fit you properly. The plastic rubs against your skin in the front. Used them for all my framed paintings in several rental apartments and then my house when I owned it even thought I could screw and nail things all I wanted. When I needed ANC cans for home and saw the 85H that shared the same technology and app, it was a no brainer, thinking I would get the same excitement as when I got my 75T. This headset is definitely not for singing though. I knocked off a star because of A) the price, which seems a little expensive for what it is and B) I cant use the OEM 1/8" to 1/4" adapter and this doesnt come with one (which really is not that big of a deal). For now though, my only regret is I didnt get these sooner. With permanent waist beads you dont have that option The headset seems to be tuned to the range of the human voice - ATC and other planes seem to be more legible to me than with other headsets Ive tried.