Had to return and order again, sad! I like these enough that Im probably just going to use them as slip-on loafers sooner rather than later instead of returning them. Seac 6mm dive boot: fits like a shoe and almost looks like one. Seemed like my stands frame was slightly out-of-square when I put the lower panels in as the last step. It is sturdy, and the metal is so smooth. Wide enough for odds and ends, serger cones, spray cans, pliers, pens, etc. We mounted it on the fence near our backyard hottub. It fits incredibly well and I just followed the shops instructions. The only time I wear something different is if its raining or snowing. Some may not like the softness of the sole, but for me they are necessary and just about the only shoes I wear.