but then i am super fussy in this area. sometimes you are not even gonna notice you have them in or just completely forget all together. if you know nothing about cars and/or have no experience installing parts on your car, do not be fooled by the “easy-install” tagline. It just gets stuck at the fast flashing blue light no matter what I tried. The inevitable movement can cause the plug on the computer end to bend and snap off like cheap garbage. They hurt bunion. Simple to pit on, sturdy and good grip strength. I tried to cancel this order and now I’m so glad I couldn’t. Would rate higher but hate ads for something I paid for. This is the first time I used wireless earbuds.