However, that is preferable to me over having in-ear headphones. Now I find myself shopping for some objects that can go up there with them to help with the wind noise. Got these headphones as an alternative to airpods. With these hooks I can easily get my mountain bike wheel on to them. Will not recommend or buy again. These run super small. I use my pencil a lot with my Procreate app and over the past few years they have taken some abuse. - Its flexible and made up of quality material, so itll last a long time. Return and refund of first defective unit was smooth and without issue. I will also add I just used it today during a thunderstorm thinking oh now I definitely wont be able to use it.