Unfortunately I kept trying them with bandaids (did not help), so the white soles are no longer white and I cannot return them. However I discovered that My Forstner bits are too tall for the Makita small case. In my experience of Stax,Audeze, Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic et etc the AKG 240s are THE ONLY headphone I have used that do not have inherent weaknesses, but purely reveals them. Note the AptX audio. These are great shoes. So I had to remake it with string and that eventually worked. Just keep in mind these are not big chunky drape hangers but worked perfectly for my drapes made from drop cloths and saved me a lot of sewing and pleating! the pictures show a more distress look. These stay in place, probably wont last forever, but theyll do for a good while and the price is spot on! Disappointed!