Defiantly would not recommend this product to any one else Zudem ist die Sohle sehr wabbelig, so dass man leicht wegknicken kann. But know complaints from them. Thats the upside. SteamVR and the native chaperone system for the Valve Index are much better. Overall this case is minimalist approach to a case and I love it for that reason. Will be using a lot during the week for work so I will update this review later in the week based on those experiences. They do fit my dads well though because they fold, and is a pretty good case. These are neutral and slight roll off on the highs, so if you don’t enjoy bright TWS these will be a great option. 7-28.