when the purchaser hasnt even tried it out. also I dont know how much j hooks cost, but I am going to assume they arent cheap due to covid. There required modification to put together. the foot bed is too hard, they are neither very attractive or very comfortable An unexpected plus is, when I had to build a factory-direct bike, I needed something to hold the fork and handlebars to the body while I installed some parts, so they wouldnt just fall freely/bend the cables. Additional day one the Velcro started to pull away from the strap itself. Or Ill just travel with my personal Android phone which has a normal headphone socket. Under Armour is quickly becoming one of my favorite shoes. This product is perfect! Well made comfortable, but I have a wider foot, occasional swelling.